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In Grepolis, all players have the option of joining an alliance.  Doing so will increase the amount of support you can gain from other players in your endeavors. Without the support of an alliance, you are more likely to be attacked by people who are looking for easy kills and don't have to worry about diplomatic issues or retaliation from their target's alliance. Alliances can support and help you to grow and prosper in Grepolis and add a whole new level of fun to the game.
In Grepolis, all players have the option of joining an alliance.  Doing so will increase the amount of support you can gain from other players in your endeavors. Without the support of an alliance, you are more likely to be attacked by people who are looking for easy kills and don't have to worry about diplomatic issues or retaliation from their target's alliance. Alliances can support and help you to grow and prosper in Grepolis and add a whole new level of fun to the game.
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==Joining Alliances==
==Joining Alliances==
In order to join an alliance, you must receive an invite from a person in the alliance with invite priveleges, if you receive an invite, you will receive a notification in the reports tab and you can accept an invite by going to the alliance tab and clicking the check mark by the alliance's name, clicking the red x will delete the invite. You may recieve a few invites not long after joining or you can ask for an invite from another alliance through the in-game message system. If you are already in an alliance and want to join another, you will have to leave the first alliance before being able to see the invite.
In order to join an alliance, you must receive an invite from a person in the alliance with invite priveleges. If you receive an invite, you will receive a notification in the reports tab and you can accept an invite by going to the alliance tab and clicking the check mark by the alliance's name. Clicking the red X will delete the invite.  
You may recieve a few invites not long after joining or you can ask for an invite from another alliance through the in-game message system. If you are already in an alliance and want to join another, you will have to leave the first alliance before being able to see the invite.


===Which One Should I Join?===
====Which One Should I Join?====
There are many different types of alliance in Grepolis, there isn't really a way to say which one is better as it really comes down to who is in it. An MRA (Mass Recruiting Alliance- i.e. one that has many many members and possibly many academy alliances) is often seen as being a bad thing. However, if the alliance had hundreds of the best players in grepolis, it would be an MRA, but it would be a great alliance.  
There are many different types of alliance in Grepolis, there isn't really a way to say which one is better as it really comes down to who is in it. An MRA (Mass Recruiting Alliance- i.e. one that has many many members and possibly many academy alliances) is often seen as being a bad thing. However, if the alliance had hundreds of the best players in grepolis, it would be an MRA, but it would be a great alliance.  
You may prefer to join a smaller alliance, if you do this, communication is the key. You all need to be active, you need to talk to each other and you need to be willing to help out. It is often more fun to play in a smaller alliance as you really get to know the group of players.  
You may prefer to join a smaller alliance, if you do this, communication is the key. You all need to be active, you need to talk to each other and you need to be willing to help out. It is often more fun to play in a smaller alliance as you really get to know the group of players.  
However, larger alliances offer more support (both when attacking and defending) and you will probably be attacked less as people see that your alliance is rather large.  
However, larger alliances offer more support (both when attacking and defending) and you will probably be attacked less as people see that your alliance is rather large.  
Really, it is down to you and your personal preference. Play for a while, find what works for you.
Really, it is down to you and your personal preference. Play for a while and find what works for you.


==Founding an Alliance==
==Founding an Alliance==
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You will need to create some set of protocols, such as the restrictions of who may join your alliance, whether all of your members get invite rights to start, etc.
You will need to create some set of protocols, such as the restrictions of who may join your alliance, whether all of your members get invite rights to start, etc.
===Create forums===
===Create forums===
Set up a nice forum on the alliance forum tab, you can create and edit new tabs in the administrate forums link in the bottom right hand corner.
Set up a nice forum on the alliance forum tab, you can create and edit new tabs in the administrate forums link in the bottom right hand corner. (Note that only an alliance founder can set up the forums, only they can create or delete tabs. Forum moderators can only move and edit '''posts''').
 
 
==== What makes a good forum? ====
==== What makes a good forum? ====


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===Positions===
===Positions===
In general, an alliance will not have one founder and the rest just regular members, instead there will be some sort of officer and leader set-up, so you will have:
In general, an alliance will not have one founder and the rest just regular members, instead there will be some sort of officer and leader set-up, so you will have:
*'''Founders:''' one or two people you implicitly trust, usually others who helped found the alliance, these people will have the full founder rights.
*'''Founders:''' One or two people you implicitly trust, usually others who helped found the alliance, these people will have the full founder rights.
*'''Leaders:''' people you trust who have good leadership abilities.
*'''Leaders:''' People you trust who have good leadership abilities.
*'''Some sort of High-Council or Senate:''' a combinations of people whose advice you trust but have no other rights, and the more trusted officers, these people have internal forum rights.
*'''Some sort of High-Council or Senate:''' a combinations of people whose advice you trust but have no other rights, and the more trusted officers, these people have internal forum rights.
*'''Recruiter(s):''' people in charge of recruiting members, sometimes leaders just do this when an alliance stops recruiting as much.
*'''Recruiter(s):''' People in charge of recruiting members, sometimes leaders just do this when an alliance stops recruiting as much.
*'''Diplomat(s):''' people in charge of performing diplomacy with other alliances, as with recruiters, sometimes leaders simply perform the diplomacy
*'''Diplomat(s):''' People in charge of performing diplomacy with other alliances, as with recruiters, sometimes leaders simply perform the diplomacy
*'''Forum mod(s):''' people with forum mod abilities, who will keep the forum tidy and easy to read, they also remove profanity if it's part of the alliance rules.
*'''Forum mod(s):''' People with forum mod abilities, who will keep the forum tidy and easy to read, they also remove profanity if it's part of the alliance rules.
*'''Task Force Leaders:''' people who lead small groups of players in the alliance to help with organization, only use these if you are absolutely confident of your organization abilities.
*'''Task Force Leaders:''' People who lead small groups of players in the alliance to help with organization, only use these if you are absolutely confident of your organization abilities.
*'''Reservations Admin.''' People who are in charge of looking over the reservations and making sure that everything is in order.
*'''Reservations Admin.''' People who are in charge of looking over the reservations and making sure that everything is in order.


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Now, the available rights for these people in the hierarchy are:
Now, the available rights for these people in the hierarchy are:


[[File:Gründer.png]]'''Founder:''' has the same as rights as leaders as well as being able to rename the alliance and dissolve the alliance. Founders can kick out other founders <br />
[[File:Gründer.png]]'''Founder:''' Has the same as rights as leaders as well as being able to rename the alliance and dissolve the alliance. Founders can kick out other founders <br />
[[File:Leiter.png]]'''Leader:''' in addition to all below rights, leaders also have the ability to edit/create/delete forum tabs, alter internal announcements and alliance profile and to kick out members. Leaders can kick out other leaders but not founders.
[[File:Leiter.png]]'''Leader:''' In addition to all below rights, leaders also have the ability to edit/create/delete forum tabs, alter internal announcements and alliance profile and to kick out members. Leaders can kick out other leaders but not founders.
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[[File:Einladungen.png]]'''Invitation:''' gives ability to invite players.<br />
[[File:Einladungen.png]]'''Invitation:''' Gives ability to invite players.<br />
[[File:Diplomatie.png]]'''Diplomacy:''' allows a person to set the status of diplomatic relations with another alliance (as of the [[Version Log#Version 1.19|1.19 update]].<br />
[[File:Diplomatie.png]]'''Diplomacy:''' Allows a person to set the status of diplomatic relations with another alliance (as of the [[Version Log#Version 1.19|1.19 update]].<br />
[[File:Rundmail.png]]'''Mass mail:''' gives a more convenient option to be able to mail the entire alliance at once.<br />
[[File:Rundmail.png]]'''Mass mail:''' Gives a more convenient option to be able to mail the entire alliance at once.<br />
[[File:Moderator_im_Forum.png]]'''Forum Moderator:''' gives the ability to edit, process, or delete posts and to move, lock, or delete threads. They can't create, edit or delete tabs.<br />
[[File:Moderator_im_Forum.png]]'''Forum Moderator:''' Gives the ability to edit, process, or delete posts and to move, lock, or delete threads. They can't create, edit or delete tabs.<br />
[[File:Zugang_zu_dem_internen_Foren.png]]'''Internal Forums:''' gives ability to access the hidden forums of an alliance.<br />
[[File:Zugang_zu_dem_internen_Foren.png]]'''Internal Forums:''' Gives ability to access the hidden forums of an alliance.<br />
[[File:Reservationtool admin.png]]'''Reservations Administrator:''' gives the ability for someone to administrate the reservations for your alliance. They are able to remove reservations created by players in your alliance.
[[File:Reservationtool admin.png]]'''Reservations Administrator:''' Gives the ability for someone to administrate the reservations for your alliance. They are able to remove reservations created by players in your alliance.




The rights below the dashed line are all completely independent of each other, founders have every single right, leaders have all the bottom 5 rights as well as their own rights.
The rights below the dashed line are all completely independent of each other, founders have every single right, leaders have all the bottom 6 rights as well as their own rights.


===Setting privileges===
===Setting privileges===
In order to give people privileges (rights), you should first make sure that you trust a person and they ought to be quite active in the game. This is done by observing this person to see if they are the type to help alliance members, you might know a person previously, you might ask another person that you trust, etc. This is one of the most important factors of choosing someone for a position. Furthermore, you must check that they are actually competent, so here is what you probably need:
In order to give people privileges (rights), you should first make sure that you trust a person and they ought to be quite active in the game. This is done by observing this person to see if they are the type to help alliance members, you might know a person previously, you might ask another person that you trust, etc. This is one of the most important factors of choosing someone for a position. Furthermore, you must check that they are actually competent, so here is what you probably need:
*'''Leaders:''' good administrating, not abusive of power, do not choose leaders because they are ultra-high in points, good players are not necessarily good administrators, so choose wisely, particularly because leaders can be very powerful.
*'''Leaders:''' Good administrating, not abusive of power, do not choose leaders because they are ultra-high in points, good players are not necessarily good administrators, so choose wisely, particularly because leaders can be very powerful.
*'''Recruiters:''' follow orders, can spot potentially good players are willing to deal with lots of mail (if you are a top alliance).
*'''Recruiters:''' Follow orders, can spot potentially good players are willing to deal with lots of mail (if you are a top alliance).
*'''Diplomats:''' must have good judgment and good people skills.
*'''Diplomats:''' Must have good judgement and good people skills.
*'''Forum mods:''' make sure you trust them not to unnecessarily delete threads, posts, make it seem like people have said something they haven't, etc.
*'''Forum mods:''' Make sure you trust them not to unnecessarily delete threads, posts, make it seem like people have said something they haven't, etc.
*'''High council:''' people you trust and whose advice you want in certain situations
*'''High council:''' People you trust and whose advice you want in certain situations


====Assigning the rights====
====Assigning the rights====
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The most common diplomatic relationships are:
The most common diplomatic relationships are:


'''Ally:''' when both alliances are willing to help each other with attacks and support.
'''Ally:''' When both alliances are willing to help each other with attacks and support.


'''NAP:''' Non Aggression Pact, both alliances agree not to attack each other while the NAP is standing, there is no mutual support as with an ally though.
'''NAP:''' Non Aggression Pact, both alliances agree not to attack each other while the NAP is standing, there is no mutual support as with an ally though.

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In Grepolis, all players have the option of joining an alliance. Doing so will increase the amount of support you can gain from other players in your endeavors. Without the support of an alliance, you are more likely to be attacked by people who are looking for easy kills and don't have to worry about diplomatic issues or retaliation from their target's alliance. Alliances can support and help you to grow and prosper in Grepolis and add a whole new level of fun to the game.


Joining Alliances

In order to join an alliance, you must receive an invite from a person in the alliance with invite priveleges. If you receive an invite, you will receive a notification in the reports tab and you can accept an invite by going to the alliance tab and clicking the check mark by the alliance's name. Clicking the red X will delete the invite. You may recieve a few invites not long after joining or you can ask for an invite from another alliance through the in-game message system. If you are already in an alliance and want to join another, you will have to leave the first alliance before being able to see the invite.

Which One Should I Join?

There are many different types of alliance in Grepolis, there isn't really a way to say which one is better as it really comes down to who is in it. An MRA (Mass Recruiting Alliance- i.e. one that has many many members and possibly many academy alliances) is often seen as being a bad thing. However, if the alliance had hundreds of the best players in grepolis, it would be an MRA, but it would be a great alliance. You may prefer to join a smaller alliance, if you do this, communication is the key. You all need to be active, you need to talk to each other and you need to be willing to help out. It is often more fun to play in a smaller alliance as you really get to know the group of players. However, larger alliances offer more support (both when attacking and defending) and you will probably be attacked less as people see that your alliance is rather large. Really, it is down to you and your personal preference. Play for a while and find what works for you.

Founding an Alliance

To found an alliance, you go to the alliance tab and you type in a name and click 'found alliance' and a new alliance will be founded. To set up the alliance, there are a few things you will have to do first.

*Note: it is not advisable to create an alliance the first time you play since it can be quite a bit of work. Playing in other alliances can give you the experience needed to create a well run alliance.

*Note: Alliance names can only contain up to 24 characters.

Recruit

To start out, you can send invites to lots of players nearby hoping some will join or you can aim for a few select members and either recruit them before the world opens or send messages to them in-game. There is also the option of advertising your alliance in the external forum, find your world's forum and make a thread under the sub-forum 'Alliances': [1](Note: this is the difference between a Mass Recruiting Alliance -MRA- and an Elite alliance)

Create protocols

You will need to create some set of protocols, such as the restrictions of who may join your alliance, whether all of your members get invite rights to start, etc.

Create forums

Set up a nice forum on the alliance forum tab, you can create and edit new tabs in the administrate forums link in the bottom right hand corner. (Note that only an alliance founder can set up the forums, only they can create or delete tabs. Forum moderators can only move and edit posts).

What makes a good forum?

The most basic of forums should include-

Announcements (Where leaders can post important announcements for the alliance to see)

Support (Where people can request support)

Questions/guides (This one depends on how many new players you have in your alliance).

Council (This section is normally hidden- use it to discuss things with your fellow leaders if you have any!)

Other sections include-

Off Support (Short for Offensive Support- Where people can post asking for help attacking a target).

Market (Where members can post requesting resources- this is a good tactic as it means that resources are staying in the alliance).

Off topic (to have some fun)

General (where members can post with things they consider important).

Create a profile/publicity

You should make sure to choose an image for your alliance, a banner and create a profile. A profile is usually something like this: Alliance name: The Spartans Points: 10000 members: 10 Profile: Spartans have ruled the western civilization for centuries and shall not stop!!!! For recruitment and diplomacy, contact xxxx If you want to be or enemy, mail us, if you want to be our ally or NAP, then give up

so basically, the profile goes like this:

  • attention grabber, related to alliance theme or name
  • who to contact
  • something about allies and enemies and some sort of macho-like phrase about enemies

Hierarchy

There are no rules on how an alliance must be run and the following is merely a guide, you can use any possible combination to find your own best way of running an alliance.

Positions

In general, an alliance will not have one founder and the rest just regular members, instead there will be some sort of officer and leader set-up, so you will have:

  • Founders: One or two people you implicitly trust, usually others who helped found the alliance, these people will have the full founder rights.
  • Leaders: People you trust who have good leadership abilities.
  • Some sort of High-Council or Senate: a combinations of people whose advice you trust but have no other rights, and the more trusted officers, these people have internal forum rights.
  • Recruiter(s): People in charge of recruiting members, sometimes leaders just do this when an alliance stops recruiting as much.
  • Diplomat(s): People in charge of performing diplomacy with other alliances, as with recruiters, sometimes leaders simply perform the diplomacy
  • Forum mod(s): People with forum mod abilities, who will keep the forum tidy and easy to read, they also remove profanity if it's part of the alliance rules.
  • Task Force Leaders: People who lead small groups of players in the alliance to help with organization, only use these if you are absolutely confident of your organization abilities.
  • Reservations Admin. People who are in charge of looking over the reservations and making sure that everything is in order.

Available Rights

Now, the available rights for these people in the hierarchy are:

Gründer.pngFounder: Has the same as rights as leaders as well as being able to rename the alliance and dissolve the alliance. Founders can kick out other founders
Leiter.pngLeader: In addition to all below rights, leaders also have the ability to edit/create/delete forum tabs, alter internal announcements and alliance profile and to kick out members. Leaders can kick out other leaders but not founders.


Einladungen.pngInvitation: Gives ability to invite players.
Diplomatie.pngDiplomacy: Allows a person to set the status of diplomatic relations with another alliance (as of the 1.19 update.
Rundmail.pngMass mail: Gives a more convenient option to be able to mail the entire alliance at once.
Moderator im Forum.pngForum Moderator: Gives the ability to edit, process, or delete posts and to move, lock, or delete threads. They can't create, edit or delete tabs.
Zugang zu dem internen Foren.pngInternal Forums: Gives ability to access the hidden forums of an alliance.
Reservationtool admin.pngReservations Administrator: Gives the ability for someone to administrate the reservations for your alliance. They are able to remove reservations created by players in your alliance.


The rights below the dashed line are all completely independent of each other, founders have every single right, leaders have all the bottom 6 rights as well as their own rights.

Setting privileges

In order to give people privileges (rights), you should first make sure that you trust a person and they ought to be quite active in the game. This is done by observing this person to see if they are the type to help alliance members, you might know a person previously, you might ask another person that you trust, etc. This is one of the most important factors of choosing someone for a position. Furthermore, you must check that they are actually competent, so here is what you probably need:

  • Leaders: Good administrating, not abusive of power, do not choose leaders because they are ultra-high in points, good players are not necessarily good administrators, so choose wisely, particularly because leaders can be very powerful.
  • Recruiters: Follow orders, can spot potentially good players are willing to deal with lots of mail (if you are a top alliance).
  • Diplomats: Must have good judgement and good people skills.
  • Forum mods: Make sure you trust them not to unnecessarily delete threads, posts, make it seem like people have said something they haven't, etc.
  • High council: People you trust and whose advice you want in certain situations

Assigning the rights

In order to give rights, you go to the alliance tab, click members, and then click 'edit authorizations' and then check/uncheck rights for those people.

Diplomacy

The most common diplomatic relationships are:

Ally: When both alliances are willing to help each other with attacks and support.

NAP: Non Aggression Pact, both alliances agree not to attack each other while the NAP is standing, there is no mutual support as with an ally though.

Enemy: Alliance with whom you are at war, you don't necessarily have to let them know you are at war, but they will eventually work it out.

You can mark allied alliances and enemy alliances in the Pacts tab:

  • Allies are marked green and enemies red.
  • If you try to attack someone from an allied alliance, you will be asked to confirm.
  • In a pact log, your alliance will be notified about new and canceled memberships as well as conquests and losses of cities by players whose alliances are part of your pact.
This is what an ally looks like on the map

Forum moderation

The forum moderator's job is to keep the forums tidy and enforce and alliance rules in this regard. They will usually delete or 'archive' (i.e. send threads to a hidden forum called Archive) old threads that are cluttering the forums. They may also delete or edit posts in case someone is breaking alliance rules which may include using profanity, posting troop numbers and general spamming. There is really only a need for one or possibly two in a large alliance. Also note that if a forum moderator gets upset then they have the power to mess up the forums creating quite a problem for the alliance, so make sure they are mature and trustworthy.

Spying

Some players within an alliance may be spying for enemy alliances. They can either join with this intention or be swayed into performing some espionage once already in the alliance. This usually means giving away information which appears in the forum or in rarer cases being given priveleges to view the hidden forum. This problem is a lot more prevelant in larger alliances who don't mind who they invite. It is probable that there you will be infiltrated a couple of times, but it doesn't have to be problematic. The use of a hidden forum as well as outside chats means you don't have to post sensitive information on the forum and it is best to keep an eye on your members.

Malicious disbandment

One of the most controversial tactics is to get invited into an alliance, convince a founder to give founder priveleges and then disband the alliance. This can also happen if a founder gets upset and decides to take out their anger by disbanding.

This happens most often in large alliances with less experienced players. A player will come in and claim to have lots of experience and will demand priveleges (or wryly convince). The solution is simply to have more checks on those who you give priveleges to and not to give priveleges to people who have just joined and who you don't yet fully trust.


Merges

A more common occurrence in the world of Grepolis is the merging of two alliances. This can either mean that alliance A merges into alliance B or A and B both join the new alliance C (note that making a new alliance will re-set the alliance battle points in the rankings). This is often used by two alliances who want to consolidate their power peacefully and thus take over an ocean or provide a stronger resolve against a common enemy.

Many alliances write that they will not merge into another alliance in their profile, however, this is often untrue.

Note that if Alliance A merges into Alliance B, Alliance A's World Wonders are destroyed

How a merge works

If Alliance A and Alliance B have agreed to merge, they now need to decide who is merging into who. If A is merging into B, a leader of Alliance B must invite all the players in Alliance A to join them. All of these players must then leave alliance A and accept the invite.

If A and B are going to merge and form a totally new alliance C, someone must first create Alliance C and then invite all the members from both alliances.

FAQs

Please see the 'Alliances' section of the FAQs page if you are still a bit confused.